These minutes shall remain draft until confirmed at the next meeting of the Panel.

BATH AND NORTH EAST SOMERSET COUNCIL

ENTERPRISE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OVERVIEW & SCRUTINY PANEL

Tuesday 9th September 2008

PRESENT-: Councillors: Colin Darracott, Peter Edwards, Richard Maybury Dine Romero, Martin Veal (Chairman) and Brook Whelan

Apologies: Councillor Nigel Roberts

Also in attendance: Peter Rowntree (Director, Customer Services), Jeremy Smalley (Divisional Director - Development & Regeneration), Derek Quilter (Divisional Director - Project Management), Tom McBain (Divisional Director - Property), Rhodri Samuel (Regeneration Manager), Tony Crouch (World Heritage Manager), Susan Bowen (Funding and Programme Manager), David Trigwell (Divisional Director: Planning & Transport Development), Peter Dawson (Group Manager, Planning Policy & Transport), David Lawrence (Divisional Director - Tourism, Leisure & Culture) and Adrian Clarke (Transportation Planning Manager).

Councillor Charles Gerrish: Cabinet Member for Customer Services.

Councillor David Hawkins: Cabinet Member for Development and Major Projects.

External Contributors: Colin Skellett, Andrew Cooper and Mohammed Saddiq (Future Bath Plus)

The Panel RESOLVED that, having been satisfied that the public interest would be better served by not disclosing relevant information, and in accordance with the provisions of Section 100 (A) (4) of the Local Government Act 1972, the public be excluded from the meeting for the following item of business because of the likely disclosure of exempt information as defined in paragraph 3 of Part 1 of Schedule 12A of the Act as amended.

It is my concern that the leaflets issued to the public include some gross mistakes, which seriously mislead residents - and which may have already misled the Cabinet to misdirect some of its £3m expenditure in this financial year on site investigations, design works and borrowing.

I therefore want to speak about the false claims in the leaflet on an Eastern Park and Ride, in particular about costs and the alternative site at Charmy Down. I think the Cabinet is quite right to reject the site at Lambridge, and I applaud that decision, but, of the two alternatives to Lambridge, officers may have chosen the wrong one.

I intend to show that the officers' costings for it are so flawed as to make their conclusions totally unsafe. To do this, I've used information from within B&NES and also from Batheaston Parish Council (which has commissioned research into a Park and Ride at Charmy Down).

The officers seem to have made three easy but fatal mistakes. One was to follow the wrong sequence in their assessment - if instead of asking first "What's the cheapest site?", they'd asked "Which sites are most environmentally damaging?", they might not have wasted any more time and money in looking at a site on Bathampton Meadows.

The second mistake was to assume that all other Park and Ride sites would cost as much to lay out as one on Bathampton Meadows. Not so. For example, the Charmy Down site is set in a shallow bowl on one of Bath's hills and on a disused ex-field. It is therefore out of sight of Bath to all but a handful of houses. So it doesn't need an expensive terminal building - a very simple rustic terminal is much more appropriate. As an ex-airfield, it already has its level roads and runways, whereas Bathampton Meadows has nothing. Furthermore, Bathampton Meadows would seemingly cost the Council much more to operate, in terms of buses and their crews, than Charmy Down unless it had a dedicated bus lane up to the A4/A46 roundabout, and, during the all-important peak hours, a bus lane there would be largely ineffective unless a new, vastly expensive, bridge was also built over the Avon.

The third mistake was in not confirming the right position of the Charmy Down access, as stated to officers, and the identity of the landowners. And it is not the case that land at Bathampton Meadows is "free" and that land elsewhere would have to be paid for, since the land relinquished at the Meadows would bring in funds to pay for land purchase elsewhere.

The claim, at para 4.4 of the officers' report that "The Council has now conducted a review of key aspects of the Bath Transportation Package and the results have been published" may be true, but clearly their key review of Charmy Down is totally unsafe.

I therefore ask the Panel to reject the report before them and to make a strong recommendation that the enactment of E1851 should explicitly exclude item 2.5 until cost data has been publicly proven and the matter has subsequently been reviewed by the Cabinet members responsible, and that their decision comes back to the Panel at the earliest opportunity.

Early in 1991, Air Vice-Marshall Sir Michael Giddings, at the conclusion of his Public Inquiry, ruled against having a link between the A36 and the Batheaston By-pass, at the site now proposed by the Cabinet for a Park and Ride facility, even though it would have led to a reduction in traffic along the London Road. He concluded that it was 93intolerable in its landscape impact and devastating to recreational amenity94.

The Report commissioned by the B&NES Council from Halcrow Fox rejected a Park and Ride at the site now proposed as 93its position is such that its visual impact would be significant94.

Both the Steer Davies Gleave Report of April 2000, and the Environmental Statement for Lambridge of December 2002 prepared by Nicholas Pearson, accepted and adopted the Halcrow Fox conclusions. So five independent studies, looking in depth at development proposals on Bathampton Meadows, all agree with the Government assessment reported by Mr Batho.

Batheaston commuters, by bus as well as by car, probably suffer the most from the traffic congestion by the A46/A4 roundabout and on the London Road. So they would gain most from a park and ride sited before the start of that congestion. However, a recent complete survey of all the 2164 residents on the electoral roll of Batheaston found that while a definite majority of respondents favoured a park and ride at Charmy Down, a massive 85% opposed a park and ride in the Bathampton Meadows.

I hope the Panel will urge the Cabinet to review the proposal to build a park and ride in the Meadows and to look properly at the advantages of Charmy Down. The site there is partially visible from only 4 houses, rather than about 4,000. The financial cost of a park and ride there looks likely to be lower than one on the Meadows - and the environmental costs would be vastly less.

If substantial amendments to the Park & Ride scheme were required then an additional application would have to be made to the Government for funding - under the new system the Council would have to contribute 10% of the cost of that new scheme.

The Group Manager for Planning Policy & Transport added that cost was not the only concern when considering the proposals. Even if the site at Charmy Down did prove to cost less it would not be an appropriate site on the grounds that it would add an extra 10 miles on the journey in some cases for the public.

Councillor Dine Romero asked if all other options had been truly considered and specifically why could the scheme not be built at Charmy Down?

The Divisional Director for Planning & Transport Development replied that there would be a large cost implication to the Council if the scheme had to be re-applied for on a different site. Any significant change would more than likely lead the Government to ask for the scheme to be re-applied for. The Council would then have to make a 10% contribution to the cost of the scheme and given that the present one is set at around A354m that would mean a A35.4m contribution.

The average distance of the journey to the site is also a real factor in the placement of the scheme.

Tony McCann stated that he believed there could be up to a 50% difference in the cost quoted for the scheme at Charmy Down. He asked if that was the case then the information should be published.

The Divisional Director for Planning & Transport Development replied that he would be happy to share information with the public. He added that regular discussions do take place with the Department for Transport regarding the scheme.

Steve Mackerness also stated that he believed Charmy Down would cost less than Bathampton Meadows and asked the Council engages with the Parishes for further discussions.

The Chairman suggested that concerned parties met for further discussions within the next 10 days and he asked to be personally notified if this were not able to happen.

A member of the public asked if the value of the visual / environmental impact had been assessed yet.

The Divisional Director for Planning & Transport Development replied that it had not been assessed yet and that the cost for mitigation would be hard to judge.

Councillor Peter Edwards asked Mr Fremantle how many responses he had received to his survey to achieve the figure of 85% against the proposed scheme.

Mr Fremantle replied that the reponse to the survey was around 60% which equated to around 1,100 people.

Councillor Colin Darracott asked if there was any discretion to amend the scheme without the need to re-apply.

The Divisional Director for Planning & Transport Development replied that no, there was not.

Councillor Darracot then wished to summarise the debate. He felt that it was clear that at either end of the Package there were two options that were open for further discussion. The Park & Ride: Mill Lane / Charmy Down and the Bath Rapid Transit: New purpose built road / expansion of the Lower Bristol Road.

Park & Ride: Will Charmy Down be used by a significant amount of the public against the other option of Mill Lane?

Bath Rapid Transit: Has the option to improve access along the Lower Bristol Road been properly assessed?

These issues must be brought into the public domain.

The Chairman proposed the following recommendation:

(1) The Panel agrees to note the officer report and the many challenges to the public documents on the prposals for a Park & Ride to the East of Bath.

(2) The Panel asks that officers consult further with the Parishes on the issue of the Park & Ride to the East of Bath.

(3) The Panel asks that any new evidence regarding the proposals for Park & Ride to the East of Bath and the Bath Rapid Transit scheme are placed in the public domain.

The Panel RESOLVED to agree unanimously with these recommendations.

The Divisional Director for Planning & Transport Development wished to add that a meeting is scheduled to take place with the Parishes in around a weeks time and he hoped that the outcomes of this meeting would be able to be presented to the Safer and Stronger Communities Overview & Scrutiny Panel that is due to meet on September 25th 2008 where this item will be discussed further.

It is hoped that a Planning Application will be submitted for the Park & Ride scheme to the Development Control Committee by the end of the year - consultation with the public will be a part of this process. The final proposals for the scheme should be in place in November and the public will be allowed to comment fully on these proposals.

Colin Skellett, Andrew Cooper and Mohammed Saddiq representing Future Bath Plus were present for this item and gave a presentation to the Panel (a full copy of which can be found on the Panel's Minute Book).

Colin Skellet introduced the presentation and informed the Panel of the structure of the organisation. Future Bath Plus is a company limited by guarantee and has two owners, Bath & North East Somerset Council and The Chamber of Commerce and Initiative. It has four public sector directors and eight private sector directors. The company will focus on City Centre Management for Bath and Tourism and Festival support for Bath & North East Somerset.

Mohammed Saddiq then addressed the Panel on the issue of City Centre Management. He spoke of how the company has achieved a minimum of A350k a year for three years from the private sector and that this has been matched by the Council. A partnership board has been created from a broad coalition of public and private representation. Andrew Cooper was appointed as City Centre Manager in May 2008.

Colin Skellet stated that one of the aims for the City Centre is to install a high quality public toilet facility. An overall clean up of the City Centre should be considered from the centre outwards.

The Chairman asked what provision was being made for toilets with regard to the Christmas Market.

Andrew Cooper replied that they would be working with retail businesses to gain better public access to their toilets.

The Chairman asked if a temporary facility could be provided.

Colin Skellet agreed with this suggestion.

Colin Skellett addressed the Panel on the subject of Culture. He stated that the independence of existing festivals should remain unchanged. Future Bath Plus will have an influence on funding of the cultural activity within Bath & North East Somerset and offer common support for festivals, eg planning, traffic management, banners etc.

Councillor Colin Darracott commented that the structure of the company needs strength and power. Bath Tourism Plus needs to be on board, the City Centre Manager needs to identify where quick wins can be achieved and that it should be noted that the work surrounding the issue of Culture will be substantial.

Colin Skellet concluded the item by asking three questions of the Council. Why does the Park & Ride currently close on a Sunday? When will there be a definitive solution to the Coach Strategy? When will homelessness within the City be fully tackled?

The Panel thanked all three representatives for attending and for giving the presentation.

The West of England Road Safety Partnership involves a range of partners to help reduce road accident casualties, including Safecam, which is responsible for camera enforcement, publicity and the Speedchoice road safety workshops. Bath & North East Somerset Council currently contributes A3162,449 towards Safecam from its total annual Road Safety Grant allocation of A3302,667 in 2007/8.

The change in emphasis away from simply speed enforcement towards driver education and training made possible by the creation of Road Safety Partnerships has significantly changed the way Safecam operates. Drivers who marginally exceed the speed limit are now offered a half day speed awareness course as an alternative to being issued with speeding fines and penalty points on their licence. This training programme has been particularly successful and there are now plans to introduce a national speed awareness course.

The Panel RESOLVED to note the report.

The Chairman introduced this item to the Panel. He asked that they look at the proposed list of items attached to the workplan and discuss their allocation to a specific meeting.

Councillor Colin Darracott proposed that the following items listed under Future Items could be grouped together and discussed at the January meeting of the Panel: Arts Funding, Cultural Strategy & Funding, and Economy of Bath & North East Somerset Creative Industries.