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CPO 2004 Enquiry - Documents Submitted by Bath & North East Somerset Council

Rebuttal Proof of Evidence of Roger Guy MRICS, MRTPI, DipTP on behalf of Bath and North East Somerset Council in Response to Objections by Somerfield Stores Ltd.

Public Inquiry May 2005

Document No: BNES/5/4

1.         Scope of Evidence

1.1       In this evidence I will deal with points raised by Mr Michael Beese and Mr Tony Morpeth in their submissions on behalf of Somerfield Stores Ltd. in so far as they relate to the planning permission issued for the redevelopment of the Southgate area (Application Ref. 97/01019/FUL)(CDs Vol 4 and 5.8)

2.         Lack of Planning Certainty

2.1             In his paragraph 3.2, Mr Beese states that I had indicated to him that the permission granted for the Scheme “was in effect closer to an outline than a detailed permission”. I believe that he may have misunderstood what I said to him at that time.

2.2             The application is a full application supported by a considerable amount of information and plans to a significant level of detail. The material submitted was no different from that which is normally provided for a scheme of this scope, and indeed, exceeded it in that large scale detailed drawings were submitted. In schemes of this range and complexity the preparation of detailed drawings proceeds hand in hand with the development of the structural solution. The approved plans are such that there is no doubt as to what is intended and what has been approved.

2.3             In this case, the LPA were satisfied that adequate detail had been provided for a permission to be issued and that, given the scale of the development proposed, it would not be reasonable, nor was it necessary, for further detailed plans to be submitted before the permission could be issued.

2.4             However, the proposed buildings are mainly concrete and steel framed structures clad in stone or, in the case of the proposed bus station, to be clad in metal and glass in a modern style. In both cases, the intended design is clear and fully acceptable to the LPA.  It is the fine detail and specification of the buildings and landscaping that will ensure that a high quality scheme is realised.

2.5             The Conditions referred to by Mr Beese in his paragraph 3.5 were therefore imposed to ensure that, as they require, “constructional and architectural details” of the approved designs, not alternative design proposals, are provided for approval before construction begins.

2.6             Condition 23 is designed to enable the LPA to ensure that although the buildings will be stone clad and not of structurally supporting stonework they will not appear as such and will be both convincing and correctly detailed given the classical style chosen by the applicants.

2.7             Similarly, Condition 24 seeks to enable the LPA to ensure that the detailing and construction of the bus station building is of the quality shown on the approved plans and that the WPD switchgear building is appropriately detailed.

2.8             It is not expected that the submissions required by these conditions will propose any significant deviation from the approved plans and I therefore anticipate that approval of the detailing will, contrary to Mr Beese’s assertion in his paragraph 3.3, be straightforward.

2.9             With regard to the Conditions referred to in paragraph 3.7 of Mr Beese’s submission I would comment as follows:

·        Condition 31: This condition was imposed because at that time the constraints on the design of the wall imposed by the operational requirements of the bus station, access to the river wall by the Environment Agency and concerns expressed by WPD regarding security and maintenance in relation to their substation had not been fully resolved. The principle of a screen wall along the river frontage had however been established and agreed and it was considered acceptable by the LPA that approval of the detailed construction and materials for this small but important element of the Scheme could be left for later approval. Since then, further discussions have taken place between the various parties and I have no reason to doubt that an acceptable proposal will be submitted for approval in accordance with this condition.

·        Condition 33: This condition was necessary because it had not been possible to clearly determine whether the southern entrance to the train station could be re-opened due to processes that needed to be followed by Network Rail. This would affect the use and layout of the forecourts, particularly as regards the location of parking for disabled people. Again, the principle of the need for the re-modelling of the forecourts has been agreed and approved. These works are not expected to take place until well into the construction period giving ample time for the details to be resolved.

·        Condition 35: This condition relates to Condition 24, which I have already dealt with, and refers to a specific detail of the bus station building where the final form of the feature had not been resolved. Discussions have taken place with the applicants architects on this since the permission was issued and I do not anticipate that agreement on this element of the building will be a problem.

2.10          With regard to the statements in Mr Beese’s paragraph 3.8 the permission is clearly a full planning permission and it is only specific elements of the approved Scheme that have not been agreed for the reasons I have explained. I do not consider that the requirements of the conditions cited create any lack of planning certainty in this case.

2.11          Mr Beese, in his paragraph 3.4, asserts that there are eighteen conditions that constrain the implementation of the approved Scheme. However, only two of these conditions require compliance before the start of any development on site. Based on current phasing proposals a further ten require compliance early in the development process but would not prevent the development commencing.

2.12          In his paragraph 3.6, Mr Beese indicates that nothing, as regards the conditions, has been approved and that there is still a lot of work to be done. In fact, discussions have taken place between the LPA and the Applicants architects regarding this and draft programmes for the compliance with all the conditions and the terms of the Planning Agreement (CD 5.7) have been prepared and submitted to the LPA for its consideration. Plans and proposed constructional details have now been submitted informally to the LPA as part of this process. I have no reason to doubt that the requirements of the two conditions I have referred to can be satisfied in the near future and that compliance with the remainder will follow prior to and during the development as appropriate. The same applies to the clause in the Planning Agreement, referred to by Mr Beese in his paragraph 3.10, which requires compliance before the start of development on site.

2.13          In paragraphs 3.22 and 3.23, Mr Beese, and paragraph 3.4, Mr Morpeth, state that uncertainty is created by the lack of detail regarding the office, leisure and housing elements of the Scheme.

2.14          The planning application contains full details of these elements of the proposals although I would, for clarity, point out that the office content is very small, being limited to ancillary offices for the bus station and ongoing management of the Scheme. Conditions imposed on the permission and clauses in the Planning Agreement secure and control the implementation of the housing. For example, Condition 10 stipulates that “No occupation of any of the commercial units within each of Blocks A, B, C and D shall take place until all the residential units in each individual block have been provided …” and Clause 1 Schedule 1 and Schedule 4 of the Planning Agreement deal with the provision of the affordable housing within the Scheme.

2.15          Mr Beese, in his paragraphs 3.29 – 3.32, argues that the shortfall in car parking provision during the development works is an issue that will place the Council under pressure to only agree phasing proposals that take into account the implementation of the proposed Park and Ride (P&R) scheme at Lambridge.

2.16          This matter was considered during the processing of the Main Scheme planning application and the shortfall was considered to be acceptable. No constraints or requirements regarding temporary parking provision or phasing to tie in with the P&R proposals were imposed (DC Committee 10th May 2002)(CDs 5.1, 5.2 and 5.3). Indeed, although when the application was first submitted it included an offer to part fund the Lambridge P&R, this was later withdrawn, the Council accepting that there was no need for the Lambridge scheme to be implemented in order for the Scheme to proceed (DC Committee 5th June 2003)(CDs 5.4, 5.5 and 5.6). Mr Hunter-Yeats, in paragraph 7.6.2 of his evidence to this Inquiry, confirms that the LPA accepted that the parking provision proposed was appropriate.

2.17          The requirement for phasing plans to be agreed was imposed to enable the LPA to influence and control the way in which the approved scheme is implemented, primarily in order to minimise the disruption and inconvenience the construction of a development of this scale in the city centre could otherwise cause to traffic movements in the area and the living and working conditions of the occupiers of nearby property. Where the implementation of elements of the scheme was considered to be time critical this was controlled through conditions or the Planning Agreement.

3.         Conclusion

3.1       I believe that the evidence I have given clearly indicates that the concerns expressed by Mr Beese and Mr Morpeth regarding the lack of planning certainty are not well founded and I would reiterate the statement made in my earlier evidence to this Inquiry that all the planning consents necessary for this development are in place and that there are no planning impediments which would prevent the scheme from being implemented.